desselbenvsdieselbenWhat's the difference?

Which to use

“desselben” and “dieselben” are a confusable German pair: similar on the page, but distinct in meaning, check the gloss before you choose.

#7,453
“desselben” frequency rank
#6,648
“dieselben” frequency rank
14101
confusion score

Side-by-Side Comparison

Feature desselben dieselben
Definition Genitiv Singular Maskulinum des Demonstrativpronomens derselbe Nominativ Plural des Demonstrativpronomens derselbe

Where the spellings diverge

Shared letters are muted; the letters that actually set desselben and dieselben apart are highlighted. They share 8 letters in sequence, which is exactly why the eye skips the difference.

9 ch
desselben
9 ch
dieselben

Spelling & Dictionary Insight

A purely visual mix-up. desselben ([dɛsˈzɛlbn̩]) and dieselben ([diːˈzɛlbn̩]) are said differently, so reading them aloud is the quickest way to catch the wrong one. On the page they stay close: they share most of their letters but differ in 2 positions. Our composite confusion score for this pair is 14101, derived from the frequency rank of both members and their visual similarity.

desselben is recorded at frequency rank #7,453, classified as anunknown, pronounced [dɛsˈzɛlbn̩]. dieselben is at rank #6,648, tagged as anunknown, pronounced [diːˈzɛlbn̩].

Glosses for this pair are partially populated in our dataset, but the full side-by-side definitions above should still guide you to the right choice.

With a confusion score of 14101, this pair ranks #1,953,542 of 2,006,359 scored German confusable pairs - a relatively easy-to-tell-apart pair.

Orthographic DNA of desselben vs dieselben

Shared letters: bdelns. Private to "desselben": -. Private to "dieselben": i.

"desselben" · 9 letters · shape CVCCVCCVC  ·  "dieselben" · 9 letters · shape CVVCVCCVC

Known mistypes of this pair

  • desselbenddesselben · deselben · deseslben · desseblen · desselbben · desselbenn · desselbne · desselebn
  • dieselbenddieselben · deiselben · dieeslben · dieseblen · dieselbben · dieselbenn · dieselbne · dieselebn

Frequency comparison

desselben#7,453
dieselben#6,648

Source: FrequencyWords open word-frequency list

Frequently Asked Questions

Can "desselben" and "dieselben" be used interchangeably?
No. They are said differently ([dɛsˈzɛlbn̩] versus [diːˈzɛlbn̩]) and carry different meanings; reading the sentence aloud is usually enough to catch the wrong one.
Which is more common, "desselben" or "dieselben"?
"dieselben" is the more common of the two: it sits at frequency rank #6,648 in our German list, against #7,453 for "desselben". The two are close in frequency, so neither is a safe default; check the meaning rather than guessing.

Remembering desselben vs dieselben

The fastest way to pick the right one every time.

  • Read both glosses above and match the meaning you intend, only context separates this pair.
  • See each word in full, definition, IPA, etymology and its other confusables. Full “desselben” entry
  • Browse more pairs most likely to be confused. Most confusable

Source: Wiktionary (via kaikki.org) Structured Wiktionary extract

Source: FrequencyWords open word-frequency list