derselbevsdieselbeWhat's the difference?

Quick tell: derselbe is a pronoun, dieselbe is an unknown, so they fill different roles in a sentence.

Which to use

“derselbe” is a pronoun and “dieselbe” is an unknown - they look or sound alike but fill different roles in a sentence.

#9,168
“derselbe” frequency rank
#4,258
“dieselbe” frequency rank
13426
confusion score

Side-by-Side Comparison

Feature derselbe dieselbe
Definition bezeichnet die Identität mit einem vorausgegangenen oder bekannten Ding im Gegensatz zu einem anderen Ding derselben Art, für das "der gleiche" zu verwenden ist Nominativ Singular Femininum des Pronomens derselbe

Where the spellings diverge

Shared letters are muted; the letters that actually set derselbe and dieselbe apart are highlighted. They share 7 letters in sequence, which is exactly why the eye skips the difference.

8 ch
derselbe
8 ch
dieselbe

Spelling & Dictionary Insight

These two trip readers on the page rather than in the ear: derselbe is [deːɐ̯ˈzɛlbə] while dieselbe is [diːˈzɛlbə]. Spoken aloud the problem disappears. In writing it persists, because they share most of their letters but differ in 2 positions, and the parts of speech differ too (pronoun vs unknown), which is usually the fastest check. Our composite confusion score for this pair is 13426, derived from the frequency rank of both members and their visual similarity.

derselbe is recorded at frequency rank #9,168, classified as apron, pronounced [deːɐ̯ˈzɛlbə]. dieselbe is at rank #4,258, tagged as anunknown, pronounced [diːˈzɛlbə].

Glosses for this pair are partially populated in our dataset, but the full side-by-side definitions above should still guide you to the right choice.

With a confusion score of 13426, this pair ranks #1,958,063 of 2,006,359 scored German confusable pairs - a relatively easy-to-tell-apart pair.

Orthographic DNA of derselbe vs dieselbe

Shared letters: bdels. Private to "derselbe": r. Private to "dieselbe": i.

"derselbe" · 8 letters · shape CVCCVCCV  ·  "dieselbe" · 8 letters · shape CVVCVCCV

Known mistypes of this pair

  • derselbedderselbe · dereslbe · derrselbe · derseble · derselbbe · derseleb · dersellbe · derslebe
  • dieselbeddieselbe · deiselbe · dieeslbe · dieseble · dieselbbe · dieseleb · diesellbe · dieslebe

Frequency comparison

derselbe#9,168
dieselbe#4,258

Source: FrequencyWords open word-frequency list

Frequently Asked Questions

Can "derselbe" and "dieselbe" be used interchangeably?
No - they are not even the same part of speech. "derselbe" is a pronoun and "dieselbe" an unknown, so a sentence built for one is usually ungrammatical with the other.
Which is more common, "derselbe" or "dieselbe"?
"dieselbe" is the more common of the two: it sits at frequency rank #4,258 in our German list, against #9,168 for "derselbe". The two are close in frequency, so neither is a safe default; check the meaning rather than guessing.

Remembering derselbe vs dieselbe

The fastest way to pick the right one every time.

  • Check the role first: if you need a pronoun, it's “derselbe”; for an unknown, it's “dieselbe”.
  • See each word in full, definition, IPA, etymology and its other confusables. Full “derselbe” entry
  • Browse more pairs most likely to be confused. Most confusable

Source: Wiktionary (via kaikki.org) Structured Wiktionary extract

Source: FrequencyWords open word-frequency list