demselbenvsderselbeWhat's the difference?

Quick tell: demselben is a unknown, derselbe is a pronoun, so they fill different roles in a sentence.

Which to use

“demselben” is an unknown and “derselbe” is a pronoun - they look or sound alike but fill different roles in a sentence.

#7,893
“demselben” frequency rank
#9,168
“derselbe” frequency rank
17061
confusion score

Side-by-Side Comparison

Feature demselben derselbe
Definition Dativ Singular Maskulinum des Demonstrativpronomens derselbe bezeichnet die Identität mit einem vorausgegangenen oder bekannten Ding im Gegensatz zu einem anderen Ding derselben Art, für das "der gleiche" zu verwenden ist

Where the spellings diverge

Shared letters are muted; the letters that actually set demselben and derselbe apart are highlighted. They share 7 letters in sequence, which is exactly why the eye skips the difference.

9 ch
demselben
8 ch
derselbe

Spelling & Dictionary Insight

These two trip readers on the page rather than in the ear: demselben is [deːmˈzɛlbn̩] while derselbe is [deːɐ̯ˈzɛlbə]. Spoken aloud the problem disappears. In writing it persists, because they differ by 1 letter(s) in length, and the parts of speech differ too (unknown vs pronoun), which is usually the fastest check. Our composite confusion score for this pair is 17061, derived from the frequency rank of both members and their visual similarity.

demselben is recorded at frequency rank #7,893, classified as anunknown, pronounced [deːmˈzɛlbn̩]. derselbe is at rank #9,168, tagged as apron, pronounced [deːɐ̯ˈzɛlbə].

Glosses for this pair are partially populated in our dataset, but the full side-by-side definitions above should still guide you to the right choice.

With a confusion score of 17061, this pair ranks #1,930,694 of 2,006,359 scored German confusable pairs - a relatively easy-to-tell-apart pair.

Orthographic DNA of demselben vs derselbe

Shared letters: bdels. Private to "demselben": mn. Private to "derselbe": r.

"demselben" · 9 letters · shape CVCCVCCVC  ·  "derselbe" · 8 letters · shape CVCCVCCV

Known mistypes of this pair

  • demselbenddemselben · demeslben · demmselben · demseblen · demselbben · demselbenn · demselbne · demselebn
  • derselbedderselbe · dereslbe · derrselbe · derseble · derselbbe · derseleb · dersellbe · derslebe

Frequency comparison

demselben#7,893
derselbe#9,168

Source: FrequencyWords open word-frequency list

Frequently Asked Questions

Can "demselben" and "derselbe" be used interchangeably?
No - they are not even the same part of speech. "demselben" is an unknown and "derselbe" a pronoun, so a sentence built for one is usually ungrammatical with the other.
Which is more common, "demselben" or "derselbe"?
"demselben" is the more common of the two: it sits at frequency rank #7,893 in our German list, against #9,168 for "derselbe". The two are close in frequency, so neither is a safe default; check the meaning rather than guessing.

Remembering demselben vs derselbe

The fastest way to pick the right one every time.

  • Check the role first: if you need an unknown, it's “demselben”; for a pronoun, it's “derselbe”.
  • See each word in full, definition, IPA, etymology and its other confusables. Full “demselben” entry
  • Browse more pairs most likely to be confused. Most confusable

Source: Wiktionary (via kaikki.org) Structured Wiktionary extract

Source: FrequencyWords open word-frequency list